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Posted on: Jul 06, 2006
Re: 34 year old Virgin!
Well, That's a tough one. I'm sure you're a nice guy, but sometimes nice guys can seem like pushovers. So when you meet a girl: be nice, make her feel like she is the only person in the room, and don't let her treat you like you're a pushover. But also, be careful to not be too forceful, or she will get freaked out. But anyways, even if you end up doing something really dumb and she laughs at you, just act like it doesn't affect you and she'll be impressed. Good luck, and keep me posted on how you're doing. I'd be happy to give whatever advice I have.
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Posted on: Jul 10, 2006
Re: 34 year old Virgin!
I'm a virgin too. I've been in situations where I definitely COULD have gone all the way, but I backed out. I got to thinking about it and just thought myself right out of an opportunity. Doesn't mean that I did anything wrong, but that I didn't make a move. If I'd let my feelings make the decision, I would have went for it. I advise you to do what I'm doing by weeding out that excessive self-consciousness which makes you and me over analyze the whole dating and sex thing.
Pratically everthing you've said about yourself applies to me too:
(shyness, depression, low self-esteem, fairly new to drinking, not a bar or club regular). I think that shyness is nothing more than hesitation due to uncertainty. Self-esteem is a decision, pure and simple. You just have to relentless keep deciding to yourself that you are no less valuable than anyone else alive or who as ever lived.
Funny thing is, once I became certain that some women would like me and some wouldn't no matter what I did, I found myself comfortable with standing firm on what I wanted. Instead of the "well, maybe I should go after my league" mentality, I accepted that I was going to get no's regardless. So that allowed me to accept rejection and not let it get to me as much as it used too. And once it doesn't bother me at all, I'll be in the best shape ever to succeed.
I can now walk away from women who try to manipulate me. And I don't feel bad about letting them know that I don't like what they're doing. There's nothing better than to be able to let someone go and not feel that you have to prove yourself to them. If she doesn't like me, that's fine, she doesn't have to like me, and I don't have to get stuck on her either.
As an example, I went to a club last night, and couldn't get a dance. Went to a club on the 3rd, and this lady who I really wasn't attracted to kept trying to grind with me. Previous to that, I went to a club and got looked up and down because my clothes just didn't look good enough. Girls just waved me off, some even gave me that look like "OH MY GOD NO HE DIDN'T WEAR THAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!" Previous to this, I was at a club and was dancing with girls one after another after another. Hell, I even made out with a girl on the floor, and was grinding with a girl who's fiance was standing on the side!!! I went to a bar on NYE and some girls just started hitting on me and got me to hang with them. They apparently weren't looking for anything else, but since my love/sex radar is always jammed, I really don't know. So that's just how it is. You never know what you'll get.
Nowadays, I just try to read signals as best I can, and the only way to learn is by experience. Clubs are easy because if a girl won't even look at you when you both are on the floor, then you've already gotten your answer as far as whether or not she thinks you're cute or look like someone she'd like to dance with. That doesn't mean that you can't say anything to her, but since it's a dancefloor and she's not giving you signals, it'd take some skill to get her to talk with you.
Anyway, I just wanted to give you some advice. I don't have it all together either. I haven't been out on a date since 2003, I've gotten rejected more times than I can remember, but I've also made a lot of progress. It's important to dress well. Don't underestimate that. Girls who spend a lot of time picking out clothes, keeping up with trends, and basically making themselves look so good that we guys just drool. Well, they obviously like attention, so you need to keep up. If you can't, then do your best to look clean and well-groomed, and to wear clothing that is at least reasonable for the occasion. The rest will have to be made up with charm. I'm not very charming, so I do whatever I can to look good. It's just one way to get my foot into the door.
Do what you can, but remember that online dating is probably HARDER than in real life. I just try to take advantage of whatever avenues I can to meet women. Don't get wrapped up in online dating/sex sites. Just do what you can with them and keep looking elsewhere.
| Quoting tigersheart: | Yeah and no this is not the movies! I'm 34 years old male who has never had sex or has even gotten to 1st base with a women... |
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